Comments on: Podcamp rules change – for the worse? http://neildixon.com/podcamp-rules-change-for-the-worse/ neil dixon's blog, journal, and list of stuff he does Sat, 28 Aug 2010 03:05:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: whitney Hoffman http://neildixon.com/podcamp-rules-change-for-the-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-706 whitney Hoffman Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:17:34 +0000 http://neildixon.com/2007/10/29/podcamp-rules-change-for-the-worse/#comment-706 Bar camps oringiated from Foo Camp , an invite only hacker conference. BAR actually doesn't come from another terms for "pub" but from "Bay Area Rejects". That said, (and I have been and am currently a podcamp organizer) Podcamp is having this conversation in an open and transparent way to see what the community reaction is going to be. I think podcamp is NOT barcamp, and involves a wider variety of people and groups to get together- this has been one of the extraordinarily good things about podcamp- geeks, social metworks and business types sharing their strengths and knowledge in an open forum. This may mean a less dedicated and flakier lot perhaps as well. but in the end, what does it matter if we call it a conference or an unconference if the groups of people attending remain the same? I also think we have to be able to split the purposes maybe into 2 events- an intro event, to let the casual person come in and kick the tires, while also appealing to the advanced, graduate level crowd, who want to up their game. Does that mean 2 separate events? maybe. And that's ok- but I do feel a 50% no show rate can be disheartening and disappointing. When you have a certain number of people signed up to attend, you have to be prepared for all of them to attend. When only half show up, logistics are undeniably inpacted- just like if you cook a holiday diner for 20 friends and only 10 show up- that leaves lots of leftovers and somewhat sore feelings about those who bailed at the last minute. not to mntin the money and effort expended to feed the missing 10. And I do find it rude to cancel on the very last day, or simply never bothering to attend at all or let anyone know. And for that, people should simply be ashamed. Bar camps oringiated from Foo Camp , an invite only hacker conference. BAR actually doesn’t come from another terms for “pub” but from “Bay Area Rejects”.
That said, (and I have been and am currently a podcamp organizer) Podcamp is having this conversation in an open and transparent way to see what the community reaction is going to be.

I think podcamp is NOT barcamp, and involves a wider variety of people and groups to get together- this has been one of the extraordinarily good things about podcamp- geeks, social metworks and business types sharing their strengths and knowledge in an open forum. This may mean a less dedicated and flakier lot perhaps as well.
but in the end, what does it matter if we call it a conference or an unconference if the groups of people attending remain the same?

I also think we have to be able to split the purposes maybe into 2 events- an intro event, to let the casual person come in and kick the tires, while also appealing to the advanced, graduate level crowd, who want to up their game.

Does that mean 2 separate events? maybe. And that’s ok- but I do feel a 50% no show rate can be disheartening and disappointing. When you have a certain number of people signed up to attend, you have to be prepared for all of them to attend. When only half show up, logistics are undeniably inpacted- just like if you cook a holiday diner for 20 friends and only 10 show up- that leaves lots of leftovers and somewhat sore feelings about those who bailed at the last minute. not to mntin the money and effort expended to feed the missing 10. And I do find it rude to cancel on the very last day, or simply never bothering to attend at all or let anyone know. And for that, people should simply be ashamed.

]]> By: Martin GD http://neildixon.com/podcamp-rules-change-for-the-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-705 Martin GD Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:46:41 +0000 http://neildixon.com/2007/10/29/podcamp-rules-change-for-the-worse/#comment-705 My thoughts exactly Neil. You know I've never been a big lover of the whole podcamp idea anyway. Take a read of what I had to say on the subject the other day http://greendragonmedia.com/gdblog/?p=25 My thoughts exactly Neil. You know I’ve never been a big lover of the whole podcamp idea anyway. Take a read of what I had to say on the subject the other day http://greendragonmedia.com/gdblog/?p=25

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