Published by on January 7th, 2007
The second episode - which is actually the first half of the first episode of our holiday diary - is up and ready to download: Short & Fuzzy website.
Thanks to me being a dumb-ass and forgetting the audio cable connector to distance the mic from the minidisc, the audio quality is rather poor compared to what we achieve in the ’studio’.
This episode is the first part of our Madeira Chronicles, recorded each night during our November 2006 vacation to Madeira. We talk about the holiday, our experiences and as ever just wherever the conversation leads.
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December 11th, 2006 at 9:53 am
Hey Neil:
“BritCaster already existed and had prominence - mainly due to its age. BritCaster community as it had become, was by its very existence, stunting development of community-focused ideas and projects.”
No, it wasn’t. There were, and are, plenty of good community projects which didn’t come from or rely on Britcaster. So, I don’t go with this p.o.v.
Plus, although you and others have adamantly denied it, running PodShow is a huge task, fraught with organisational problems, it’s not been 100% smooth, and while I sympathise with the enormity of the task and its demands, you have been running into difficulties with that too, which have had repercussions and created several personal frictions - I write with my own experience of this, and first-hand knowledge of others. I would expect this in any new organisation - but it is foolish to pretend otherwise.
The reason I am writing this is that you still insist on listing my article as inaccurate - which it isn’t.
You could be more honest and admit that PodShow and the fallout from there played it’s part - which it very definitely did - instead of pointing the finger vaguely at “certain elements” in the forum, and blaming other people. Then you might go some of the way to restoring trust, the evaporation of which in the end, was the underlying reason that Britcaster became unmanageable.
Love,
Dr Deek.
December 11th, 2006 at 10:34 am
Dean, I work no more hours per week
nowfor PodShow than I did as a freelancer. The PodShow workload is a minor element and in fact the nature of the work means my overall daily stress levels are significantly lower than previously, therfore the workload is actually easier to handle.Your assumption that PodShow is a significant element in BC’s closure is incorrect.
December 11th, 2006 at 10:42 am
What irritates me is the use of both BritCaster and Podshow in the articles to draw attention to the formation of National Grid/UKPF. Cheap trick to raise awareness of the UKPA-run forums, especially when Podshow had nothing to do with the BritCaster Forums closure. Hell, if things were rosy with the threads and Neil wanted to cease his involvement due to his PS commitment, then I could’ve run BC on my own (and likely pull in a few trusted moderators). Truth is, negativity won. Good job for being a part of it.
December 11th, 2006 at 2:58 pm
But, guys: you never did answer this:
“Plus, although you and others have adamantly denied it, running PodShow is a huge task, fraught with organisational problems, it‚Äôs not been 100% smooth, and while I sympathise with the enormity of the task and its demands, you have been running into difficulties with that too, which have had repercussions and created several personal frictions - I write with my own experience of this, and first-hand knowledge of others. I would expect this in any new organisation - but it is foolish to pretend otherwise.”
Any negative responses ought to be seen in this context - and so my article was perfectly fair.
But for the fact that a certain colleague of yours decided to “expose” my article in our new forum, it would have quietly died. If I was so wrong - why all the fuss?
December 11th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
FYI - “UKPA-run forums” - it isn’t. See your own TaP thread about it.
December 11th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
I’m not going to address your personal frustrations regarding PodShow. My day-to-day perception from the inside is, not surprisingly, very different to yours from the outside.
Dean, you are the only person determined to make the sole connection between BritCaster closing and my involvement with PodShow. If others are making that assumption, apart from those lifting information from your ‘article’, then point me in that direction.
You’re starting to sound like a man obsessed.
I would have throught you’d be pleased BritCaster forums are closing because that gives you (and others) the opportunity to build a forum community yourselves, be even more actively involved in community goings-on, and whether or not it were based, funded, run by or on the behalf of UKPA is irrelevant - it can only act as positive community PR related to the UK Podcasters Association.
December 11th, 2006 at 3:27 pm
Let it go. Move on. Just let it go. There are more important things in life to get worked-up over, this is not one of them.
How many hours have been lost going over the ins and outs of this? Drop it. Onwards and upwards, eh?
December 11th, 2006 at 3:29 pm
Dean:
“A new UK Community Podcast forum, National Grid, has been set up by the UK Podcasters Association. National Grid is UK-centric but open to podcasters from any country.”
This is a quote from the article you wrote for Blogger News Network. Seemed clear enough.
http://www.bloggernews.net/12631/
December 11th, 2006 at 3:38 pm
I agree with you, Pete. This stuff was bad enough on the forums… * sigh *
December 11th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
“Let‚Äôs all learn the lessons and build something with real staying power.” - the only way that will happen is if you assume that
a. I am sane, not obsessed, and not malevolent, and
b. that since I have not given up and gone away, maybe, just maybe, I am making valid points which deserve more than sarcasm.
Pete: This is not a forum, and you are not being misrepresented here - but I am. When (if) the time comes that you get a public slagging, I will expect that you have the right to be heard.
This is why I feel I should speak: “The last straw? A tantrum of a discussion concerning long-standing common family-friendly forum moderation policies.”
So, Neil is saying that because I asked not to be censored, he threw in the towel ? I really don’t think that is true, and if you persist in repeating it, I will continue to say otherwise.
Neil: “Dean, you are the only person determined to make the sole connection between BritCaster closing and my involvement with PodShow.”
No, I am not, I am a person who wrote it down, and that is all.
and: “I‚Äôm not going to address your personal frustrations regarding PodShow.” - that, Neil, is because to do so would expose you. Which despite my article, I have not done…
Jen: Read this: http://teaandpodcasts.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=30&Focus=582#Item_22
December 11th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Mr. Whitbread, all this really isn’t doing you any favours. The more you post here, the more you draw attention to the whole issue.
With a new forum, a podcast directory, a podcast aggregator, a UK Podcasters Association (UKPA) in addition to creating and promoting products such as the John Cleese podcasts - plus I suspect a whole world of other commercial and creative activities - I’m surprised you have so much time on your hands to keep this running and you certainly have far more important and positive things to do than this.
As I’ve said to you in the past, it’s all out there for people to read. The small minority who care will be able to make their own minds up.
December 11th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
You are disingenous even to your last comment: “it‚Äôs all out there for people to read.” It’s also here in your blog for people to read, which is why I am trying to put the record “straighter”.
I don’t mind that we have differences; I do mind the continual sniping, which continues even into the new TaP forum. I do mind that your mates spent a huge amount of energy/time muck spreading in my direction; and I mind that you are STILL making out that I am somehow to blame for your forum closing.
I’m a convenient fall guy, who dared to write down what he observed, and was promptly pilloried.
Mr Dixon, surely it is up to me to decide what does me favours. I’m 100% certain that your systematic blaming of me/other nameless individuals does you no favours.
Your forum closed because you wanted it to close. The fact of your employment elsewhere and the timing of the closure = putting two and two together. The problems that your new employer is experiencing are public knowledge.
Now - whatever I have written, or said, you have yet to convince me that the slagging I received is unconnected with my dealing with these issues together as a single piece of news. In fact, Jen is quite clear about this. But, for the umpteenth time, if I was so wrong, why all the fuss?
December 11th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
You are unconvinced, I have better things to do. Comments closed on this post.